(C) RIB CAGE: Open post

[Anonymous]

Reviewing the Ribcage and especially side view of Serratus Magnus and External Oblique interlacing. First page is a little messy but I included it so that you can see how I analyze and dissect this stuff. I rely on memory mostly here and if I do use reference I flop it (mirror image) and change the pose to keep my brain involved in the process.
Going thru Bridgmans "The Human Machine" not his best book!
Drawing are not as good as other books, which makes me question if he did them ~~~ there is some good info there but you really have to focus and dig.





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[Profil]

ooh I like those studies mentler:)
I just learned the name serratus magnus today:P
here is some bridgman:

I should have made the pectorials major bigger, I did at first but my brain (untrained) told me it looked wrong, but it wasnt :/ oh well I guess you learn the hard way.

[Anonymous]

Profil ::: Good tight Bridgman studies

Here is some more down and dirty rough thumbnails of review material.
i pretty much do this every week for the workshops.







More to come

[isair]

torso and shoulders my worst parts
some studies from bammes book. guess im gonna do it the old school way. one by one by one by one by one





please bear with me some head shots are just for fun and the order are somewhat messed up.. crap attackkkkkk




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[Anonymous]

But the Bone does not have this Bammes book ~~~ I know it is hard to believe ~~~ what is the title ~ I think I have it on order ~~ it is in German 404 pages or something like that.

Anyway these drawings are very good and based on what I see I like the way he simplifies forms and planes ~~~ nothing wrong with the old fashioned way ~~~ that is pretty much how I have done it ~~~ I should probably be the poster boy for A.D.D. I have drawn all the plates in several books

[isair]

oh sorry Mentler, i thought i mentioned the book before ...
<<<<Gottfried Bammes - Der Nackte Mensch>>>>>
actually i didn't have the hard copy (not available on local bookstore), only some old scan from internet (p2p actually) and another animal anatomy(sadly missing several pages ). i searched amazon, seems no exact match on the huamn one. maybe it's the one which localized in english is it? but anyway if he's books were on local shelfs, i would take them all.
and thanks for the encouragement. id be stick to that "theres no school like the old school" way
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[Brandish]

I know, it`s OT, but i stumbled upon it, so:
the german one on anatomy is called "die gestalt des menschen", many will agree it`s the best book on anatomy. i don`t know the difference between "gestalt des menschen" and "der nackte mensch", but the pictures ingram copied can be found in "gestalt ..." too. anyway, "gestalt..." is his most comprehensive volume on human anatomy. then again, it`s in german.... (no problem for me since i`m austrian )
there are two english books in print by bammes from dover, one about animals, one about human anatomy.... i do not know them, but they are not expensive, so maybe one should give them a try.

[bastian]

you have so many ways to show the form mentler, its crazy. you present them really well too.

i was a Bridgeman buff too Profil. I like his arm studies alot, and his huge thumbs!

[JeanPhilippus]

its a study i made after dr paul richer it has some mistake on the top one i did with ref from the book the right one i did with mu knowledge.
i tried to understand the angle of the cartillage and when the ribs goes away from the sternum.
this study was very very hard to do at first but i tried to analyse the cross section of each ribs and how they meet each other when going to the verterbras.

[Anonymous]

Excellent <> the Richer drawings are as good as they get for studies <> the angle of the cartilage is something to use as a key <> is varies a little because it is cartilage but is usually pretty consistent on the first 5 ribs

First one angles down to sternum

Second one is straight

Third one angles up slightly to sternum

Then the angle gets progressive more acute

This happens because of gravity

Bigger rib more cartilage thus more downward gravitational pull

This is totally different in four legged animals <> again gravity is the key

Excellent studies <> that is what it takes

Really no shortcuts <> just use good resources and use them a lot

Helps to have a skeleton

[Anonymous]

The spine in humans is very unique because we face the world in an upright position. It plays and important part in our anatomical make-up and it plays an important part in my approach to dealing with figure structure.

Here is a study I did today to refresh my memory of the forms and functions of the vertebral column.

The column is made up of 29 vertebrae <> 24 real the sacrum and the 4 coccyx or tail vertebrae. We are mainly concerned with the 24 real functioning vertebrae which include: the 7 cervical or neck vertebrae, 12 thoracic or rib cage vertebrae and the 5 lumbar vertebrae.

Anyway here is the start of my review for my anatomy workshops.

[Loony_lost]

recent studie from Vesale drawing.may be in bad section ..but there are ribcages:)

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[Solon]

From Sheppard

[Anonymous]

this is my first post here an its @ the bone doctor.i have a small request.when you post your images try to post them little bigger as it bcomes little difficult sometimes to capture the detailsu put in them.or u can u do is create thumbnails for bigger images .thank you

[Anonymous]

Solon <> I did Shepard's book as well <> always think of function because is determines form <> with muscle and bone they are what they do <> in other words function determines form.

Killermachine <> Getting ready to go through everything again and will try to provide some larger details and more typed copy for those who need to translate.